Curse

freekedoutfish · Jul 09, 2007, 08:16 AM // 08:16

Alot of people dont want to spend £17.99 on the online store to get the mission pack. Including myself.

A very good reason being, that we dont want to buy GW:EN online, because we want the box set. Alot of people like to own the games they buy, and put them on a shelf along side one another. I know I do.

I also like to control what I install on my machine and I dont want to spend hours downloading an entire game from online when I can just install it.

Plus chances are that the online price will be ALOT more expensive then say play.com, HMV or game, because its their product and they can over charge for it.

A very simple solution....

....include the Bonus Mission pack inside the GW:EN box set when its released in stores, as an extras CD.

Problem solved and everyone is happy.

Either way, you getting its free aslong as you spend over £17.99, so why not give it away with the boxed version?

Alex The Noble · Jul 09, 2007, 08:47 AM // 08:47

/signed

when i saw it was going to come out i thought yes i can see what happens to Gwen the girl but then i saw you had to pay online....Please everyone support this!! woho :P

pumpkin pie · Jul 09, 2007, 09:49 AM // 09:49

i think digitally buying the game is better :P more environmentally friendly, Anet should do that more, why need a box when you can have it without.

How about making it possible to send a cheque instead? or other type of payments. and the live download online.

take in mind that I have very slow internet connection and I still op for online downlaod, we don't need anymore rubbish then there already are.

Lonesamurai · Jul 09, 2007, 10:03 AM // 10:03

Remember one other thing too... GW:EN and the Mission packs ARE NOT separate downloads, they are added to your normal client like the chapters are...

All you need to do is an -image when they are released to get then content, then just add the content key to your account to unlock it on your account... This is all the key does and having a box for it is quite a waste of resources...

JeniM · Jul 09, 2007, 10:10 AM // 10:10

I agree with the eco-people
Manurfacture a disc a booklet and a poster and all the cards for unlockkeys for everyone that buys from local stores = big drain on rescourses

Can i ask a question? Are all the people that are saying they want the bonus instore saying it because they CAN'T buy from the online store or just because they'd rather buy from local store
I don't see why it needs to be anywhere but the ingame store, they are already considering SMS payment (i heard) and com'on who doesn't have a mobile?

bilateralrope · Jul 09, 2007, 10:28 AM // 10:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

How about making it possible to send a cheque instead? or other type of payments. and the live download online.

Well ANET is considering adding paypal.

As for environmental concerns, all the OP requires is that either ANET prints 2 keys in the GW:EN box (one for GE:EN, the other for the bonus missions) or that the single key works for GW:EN and the bonus missions. As for the actual mission data, it will be either on the disk* or everyone will have to download it (background downloading and -image pull down all content, even stuff you can't access on your account).

*The Nightfall disk also includes the contents of the Factions and Prophesies disks, the Factions disk has Prophesies content.

freekedoutfish · Jul 09, 2007, 11:24 AM // 11:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeniM

I agree with the eco-people
Manurfacture a disc a booklet and a poster and all the cards for unlockkeys for everyone that buys from local stores = big drain on rescourses

Can i ask a question? Are all the people that are saying they want the bonus instore saying it because they CAN'T buy from the online store or just because they'd rather buy from local store
I don't see why it needs to be anywhere but the ingame store, they are already considering SMS payment (i heard) and com'on who doesn't have a mobile?

I'm saying it because buying GW:EN online from Anet is going to be alot more expensive then play.com or a local highstreet store.

Buying direct from the company is always more expensive, because they can charge inflated prices.

Play.com has always been the cheapest alternative to buying games and films for me, and I refuse to pay inflated prices from Anet.

And as much as I respect the eco friendly amoung us (and Im all for saving the planet), I would much rather have an object I can hold in my hands and own on my shelf. I've never liked downloading stuff that I've payed alot of money for.

If I pay £17.99 (or what ever), I want something tangeable that I can hold in my hands and look at and feel its mine.

Plus I dont like buying things online, unless I completely trust the service and the company. I use play.com because i've used it for years and I get a tangable result from buying stuff.

But its a question of choice. Not all GWs players buy stuff online or want to, or like to! If they dont sell stuff in the stores, they will alienate clientel.

Although GW is an online game, we dont pay to play it online. Its a game we purchase in shops (and optionally online), so they will obviously release GW:EN in the stores.

Because of that, I dont see why it doesnt make sense to simply add a bonus CD in containg the mission pack.

They talk about giving it free if you pay £17.99 anyway.

But you have to appreciate that eventually a GW gold edition or game of the year edition will be released. It will contain all 3 campaigns and all possible expansions.

They might aswell start now.

Its just a good sales technique to offer it along side GW:EN, because it will shift more copies.

As for things like paypal! I used that with ebay or Amazon, at one point and I hated it. Its not the most user friendly system in the world.

Riot Narita · Jul 09, 2007, 01:03 PM // 13:03

This is how I see it:
A-Net do not charge extra. They set the price, and anyone selling for less is giving you a discount.

Third parties offer discounts as an incentive to attract customers to their stores. A-Net doesn't offer a discount, they offer free goodies to attract customers instead.

Me, I'm buying from A-Net. I don't want a box, printed manual or anything physical. I look at those things for about 5 seconds when I get them, and after that they just gather dust on my shelf, never to be looked at again (until I have a tidy up, and then I throw them all away). Free extra content is worth more than boxes etc to me.

As an incentive to buy from A-Net, it sure works for me. Third party sellers had BETTER be offering a lower price than A-Net, because otherwise they are pretty poor value for money compared to what you get from A-Net.

Even if A-Net DO make more profit from people buying from their online store, I don't begrudge them that. It's a worthy cause, they need income, and I want them to be successful and keep working on GW stuff. When I think of how much I've played GW over the last 2 years, and how much I've paid for that... it's still stupidly cheap compared to most other forms of entertainment, and most other online games.

Hyper.nl · Jul 09, 2007, 01:34 PM // 13:34

/signed

Please let us have a boxed game AND the bonus missions. I don't mind paying a bit for it either, but just make sure it's also available in the regular shops. Please. The bonus mission pack contains considerable storyline parts that I don't want to miss.

Please don't exclude all your regular retail customers from the mission pack!

fotovince · Jul 09, 2007, 01:57 PM // 13:57

signed

I love the books for reading, and the additional stuff etc. I don't love
to read a book from a screen

Mitchel · Jul 09, 2007, 02:09 PM // 14:09

/signed because I can't buy online stuff.

freekedoutfish · Jul 09, 2007, 02:25 PM // 14:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hissy

As an incentive to buy from A-Net, it sure works for me. Third party sellers had BETTER be offering a lower price than A-Net, because otherwise they are pretty poor value for money compared to what you get from A-Net.

Play.com is always cheaper then Anets online shop. I think the RRP is about £29.99 which is what Anet would charge.

Why would anyone pay that much when they can save £10+ at another shop, when you get a box and artwork etc etc.

Even if you do get a missions pack free after spending £17.99, thats not enough to entice me to spend £10+ online. I dont have money to burn.

Even now, play.com is selling all 3 campaigns for about £10 each!

How much are they on the online shop?

But that means we miss out, because we had the sense to shop around and save ourselves money. So we can only get the mission pack if we're willing to pay Anet's inflated prices.

Seissor · Jul 09, 2007, 02:43 PM // 14:43

Anet's prices arent inflated. play.com is undercutting Anets prices.

All the stores here in australia sell the games for the price of anets store, with the exception of when these stores have sales etc.

Riot Narita · Jul 09, 2007, 02:49 PM // 14:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Why would anyone pay that much when they can save £10+ at another shop, when you get a box and artwork etc etc.

To get the extra Mission Pack, of course LOL :-D
Mission Pack > Box
Mission Pack > Discount from play.com

But that's just me of course. Those that don't like it, I think you're out of luck because really, I can't see them changing their minds on this. Gaile Gray has said it is specifically to promote the online store. And putting the mission pack in the retail version will not promote the online store.

I think the best you can hope for, is that they reduce the price for GW:EN and the pre-order pack to something comparable to play.com... but I can't see that happening either.

freekedoutfish · Jul 09, 2007, 03:35 PM // 15:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seissor

Anet's prices arent inflated. play.com is undercutting Anets prices.

All the stores here in australia sell the games for the price of anets store, with the exception of when these stores have sales etc.

I dont really see your point. Is it bad that a retail store or online shop, undercuts the RRP? I cant see how. As a consumer we win!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hissy

To get the extra Mission Pack, of course LOL :-D
Mission Pack > Box
Mission Pack > Discount from play.com

But that's just me of course. Those that don't like it, I think you're out of luck because really, I can't see them changing their minds on this. Gaile Gray has said it is specifically to promote the online store. And putting the mission pack in the retail version will not promote the online store.

I think the best you can hope for, is that they reduce the price for GW:EN and the pre-order pack to something comparable to play.com... but I can't see that happening either.

Id still personally rather get a nice, sexy box with artwork in. Then sit it on my shelf with prophercies, factions and nightfall in a trilogy+1 of GWs games, and still pay less for it!

Im like that with films and books. I like to see them and have collections of stuff. Its weird... but hey!

It also helps me want to play, because I can see my investment on the shelf and think "I bought that, so im going to play it". While if its just in my PC I dont have this incouragement other then it being a great game.

I just want my box, cd and artwork to add to my trilogy.

If the mission pack cost £5 alone I could be persuaded, but im not paying £17.99 for just another few missions that wont equate to anything other then l00r!

Riot Narita · Jul 09, 2007, 03:59 PM // 15:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

I dont really see your point. Is it bad that a retail store or online shop, undercuts the RRP? I cant see how. As a consumer we win!

No its not bad. The point is: you keep saying that A-Net are inflating their prices and by that, you infer that they are "the bad guys". I say, And Seissor says, A-Net are NOT inflating prices - it's third parties who are discounting or under-cutting. Seissor gives an actual example to illustrate this: retail price in Australia is not discounted and is the same as A-net's price. I don't see A-Net being the bad guys here (or anyone else). It doesn't matter what price A-net sells for, third parties will always undercut them, and make A-net appear "inflated".

Who you buy from depends on what YOU see as the best deal. I think A-Net has the best deal, even though it costs more money. If you think a box and a few quid saved is worth more than the extra missions, then you know who to buy from.

pamelf · Jul 09, 2007, 04:09 PM // 16:09

/signed. I am not willing to give up my box artwork.

Keneth · Jul 09, 2007, 04:12 PM // 16:12

/signed

If not at the release then at some later point or in the collector's edition. I think it's rather unfair that we should have to miss the storyline due to not being able to use the online store or prefering to buy a retail version. Bonus items and the like I don't care much about but the story concerns every PvE player.

Echuu Ishtar · Jul 09, 2007, 04:47 PM // 16:47

/signed

I too like getting posters and extra goodies. I also really want this mission pack. The whole "better for the environment" is so irrelevant to this arguement because it's going to be shipped in a box regardless (along with the millions of other packaged games that are somehow destroying the planet). All we need is a CD key to give us access to the missions. It also helps those who can't buy online too.

genofreek · Jul 09, 2007, 05:05 PM // 17:05

/notsigned

They need some new ways to spend money in their store; I totally agree.

But as someone who bought character slots specifically for this special offer (I already have GW:GOTY and don't PVP), I'd feel profoundly ripped off if they shoved it in the GW:EN box too, since I'm sure I'll be buying that as well. Isn't this supposed to be a special limited-time promo for their store? It's a real slap in the face from ANet if any random nosepicking idiot can wander into Gamestop at any time and get the same benefits I just paid ~$30 for plus GW:EN at no extra charge.